{"id":905,"date":"2025-04-14T15:37:11","date_gmt":"2025-04-14T13:37:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/emis-paris.fr\/?p=905"},"modified":"2025-08-04T21:37:13","modified_gmt":"2025-08-04T19:37:13","slug":"905","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emis-paris.fr\/en\/905\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Henry Mintzberg"},"content":{"rendered":"\n[et_pb_section fb_built=\u00a0\u00bb1&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb-21px|||||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px||3px|||\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_font=\u00a0\u00bb||||||||\u00a0\u00bb header_font=\u00a0\u00bb|800|||||||\u00a0\u00bb header_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; header_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb40px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb||7px|||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb||1px|||\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb]<h1>Interview : Henry Mintzberg<\/h1>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_font=\u00a0\u00bb&#8211;et_global_body_font||||||||\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb7px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Professeur \u00e0 l\u2019Universit\u00e9 McGill <\/strong><strong>Sherbrooke, Montr\u00e9al, Canada<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb-20px|auto||auto||\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb2px||4px|||\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_font=\u00a0\u00bb&#8211;et_global_body_font||||||||\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb||0px|||\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb||-3px|||\u00a0\u00bb]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">AMCF Annual Meeting 2008 \u00e0 New York<\/p>\n<ul><\/ul>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg, vous avez pass\u00e9 une grande partie de votre carri\u00e8re \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser des recherches dans le domaine du management, vous concentrant notamment sur la structure des organisations, et vous avez publi\u00e9 de nombreux ouvrages sur ces sujets.\u00a0 \u00ab Structures et dynamique des organisations \u00bb paru aux Editions d\u2019Organisation en 1981est un ouvrage bien connu en France et depuis sa publication en fran\u00e7ais il est devenu un manuel de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence dans les \u00e9coles de management. Doit-on en conclure que pour vous, l\u2019organisation est au c\u0153ur de la cr\u00e9ation de valeur et par cons\u00e9quent centrale \u00e0 toute richesse cr\u00e9e de main d\u2019homme?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p><strong>Henry Mintzberg :<\/strong>\u00a0 Je ne dirai pas cela. Je pense qu\u2019il s\u2019agit d\u2019un facteur contributif, mais cela vient aussi de l\u2019\u00e9nergie des gens, cela vient de la culture, du leadership\u2026 Je pense donc que c\u2019est un m\u00e9lange de toutes ces choses. Mais bien s\u00fbr l\u2019organisation, c\u2019est le grand probl\u00e8me, d\u2019autant que nous ne la comprenons pas tr\u00e8s bien.\u00a0 Ainsi nous sommes dans l\u2019erreur lorsque nous cr\u00e9ons des organisations qui se ressemblent toutes plus ou moins.\u00a0 Les nouvelles technologies s\u2019y rajoutant, chacun est bien oblig\u00e9 de s\u2019y adapter.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Au cours du d\u00eener de gala de l\u2019AMCF vous avez parl\u00e9 des Managers et des Leaders et vous vous \u00eates attach\u00e9 \u00e0 bien les distinguer, donnant l\u2019impression de favoriser le Management sur le Leadership. Peut-on d\u00e9velopper ce sujet <\/strong><strong>pour nos lecteurs ?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg :<\/strong>\u00a0 Je pense que cela a \u00e9t\u00e9 une grande erreur de s\u00e9parer le leadership du management. Au passage notons que Peter Drucker s\u00e9parait lui aussi les managers des administrateurs avec la m\u00eame id\u00e9e en t\u00eate. La cons\u00e9quence en est que l\u2019on a maintenant des leaders qui ne sont pas managers. Ils ne savent pas ce qui se passe\u2026 C\u2019est la crise des pr\u00eats hypoth\u00e9caires : vous avez des gens qui dirigent de grandes soci\u00e9t\u00e9s et qui ne savent m\u00eame pas ce qui se passe dans leur compagnie. Aussi nous avons besoin de plus de management et de le combiner<br \/>avec le leadership et de surtout ne pas les s\u00e9parer\u2026<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00c0 nouveau en r\u00e9ference \u00e0 votre discours du d\u00eener de gala de l\u2019AMCF il me semble que vous avez cit\u00e9 3 points d\u2019appui, disons 3 voies permettant de d\u00e9livrer du conseil en management aux entreprises. Quelque chose sonnant <\/strong><strong>dans l\u2019oreille comme la g\u00e9rontologie, l\u2019\u00e9ducation et l\u2019obst\u00e9trique\u2026 Pouvez- vous pr\u00e9ciser votre point de vue ?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg :\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0Il y a le conseil g\u00e9riatrique, le conseil p\u00e9diatrique et le conseil obst\u00e9trique. Disons que le conseil g\u00e9riatrique revient \u00e0 garder en vie les vieilles compagnies malades. Il s\u2019agit donc de soins palliatifs. Et c\u2019est bien s\u00fbr l\u00e0 que se trouve et l\u2019argent et les probl\u00e8mes.\u00a0 Et par cons\u00e9quent pas mal d\u2019interventions de conseil se r\u00e9sument \u00e0 cela. Mais je ne pense pas que ceci soit aussi fonctionnel pour la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 que le conseil p\u00e9diatrique qui lui concerne l\u2019aide aux jeunes entreprises afin de les aider \u00e0 croitre et \u00e0 accroitre leur succ\u00e8s. Enfin il y a le conseil obst\u00e9trique qui lui concerne la naissance assist\u00e9e des nouvelles soci\u00e9t\u00e9s, celles pr\u00e9sentant un int\u00e9r\u00eat en tout premier lieu.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Est-ce \u00e0 dire que dans les prochains mois, avec la crise actuelle, nous pourrions assister \u00e0 de larges injections d\u2019argent dans des compagnies mourantes (au d\u00e9triment des jeunes pousses) ?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg :\u00a0<\/strong> Exactement. Nous savons depuis des d\u00e9cennies qu\u2019une grande partie des nouveaux emplois sont cr\u00e9\u00e9s par les entreprises de taille moyenne et les petites entreprises, et non par les grosses&#8230;\u00a0 Voyez d\u00e8s lors combien le renflouement des grandes compagnies automobiles tient de l\u2019ironie. Une fabuleuse ironie, nous allons sauver l\u2019\u00e9conomie en laissant ces compagnies licencier encore plus de travailleurs !<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Ce qui nous am\u00e8ne vers le dernier point de votre discours lequel concernait les RH et plus exactement l\u2019usage du mot \u201cRessources Humaines\u201d.\u00a0 Vous nous avez ainsi indiqu\u00e9 qu\u2019il conviendrait de ne pas employer cette d\u00e9nomination car toute ressource est \u201cjetable\u201d. Est-ce pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment ce que vous indiquiez ?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg :<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0Une ressource est\u00a0 une chose. Je suis un \u00eatre humain. Je ne suis donc pas une ressource humaine.\u00a0 Et je pense que ce genre de vocabulaire est r\u00e9ducteur. Appeler cela un capital humain (human capital) ou encore un actif humain (human asset) est presque pire. Les r\u00e9ductions d\u2019effectifs, les licenciements en masse sont devenus courants \u00e0 mesure que ce vocabulaire se banalisait. Si les gens sont des ressources, alors vous pouvez les virer tranquillement. Bien s\u00fbr certaines compagnies ont le dos au mur, mais dans la plupart des cas elles sont tout<br \/>simplement moins profitables que ce que les analystes avaient souhait\u00e9.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Si vous aviez quelques derniers mots \u00e0 dire \u00e0 nos lecteurs sur les r\u00e9ductions d\u2019effectifs et les licenciements qu\u2019ils auront probablement \u00e0 g\u00e9rer dans un proche future, s\u2019ils deviennent in\u00e9vitable, quels seraient-ils ?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg :\u00a0<\/strong> Ecoutez,\u00a0 les entreprises en manque de liquidit\u00e9 auront \u00e0 r\u00e9agir de mani\u00e8re radicale. Je ne peux pas en disconvenir.\u00a0 Mais cela dit,\u00a0 c\u2019est un peu facile de s\u2019engager dans la voie des r\u00e9ductions d\u2019effectifs. La plus part des licenciements sont les sympt\u00f4mes nerveux d\u2019une culture manag\u00e9riale d\u00e9j\u00e0 bien malade.<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_margin=\u00a0\u00bb2px||21px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb8px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"font-weight: 400; text-align: justify;\"><strong>Finalement\u00a0 Henry Mintzberg\u00a0 vous nous avez d\u00e9voil\u00e9 \u00e0 New York que vous pr\u00e9pariez un nouveau livre qui devrait sortir bient\u00f4t en Anglais et en Fran\u00e7ais.\u00a0 Pouvez-vous en conclusion nous en toucher un mot ?<\/strong><\/p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb text_text_color=\u00a0\u00bb#0C2635&Prime; text_font_size=\u00a0\u00bb16px\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb4px|||||\u00a0\u00bb hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb theme_builder_area=\u00a0\u00bbpost_content\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Henry Mintzberg :<\/strong> Cela devrait s&rsquo;appeler Managing et reprendre les parties sous- jacentes de mes premiers livres. C&rsquo;est un retour aux sources en quelque sorte. Henry Mintzberg, merci pour ces commentaires.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Propos recueillis par\u00a0 Bertrand Villeret<br \/>R\u00e9dacteur en chef<br \/>ConsultingNewsLine<\/p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interview : Henry MintzbergProfesseur \u00e0 l\u2019Universit\u00e9 McGill Sherbrooke, Montr\u00e9al, CanadaAMCF Annual Meeting 2008 \u00e0 New York Henry Mintzberg, vous avez pass\u00e9 une grande partie de votre carri\u00e8re \u00e0 r\u00e9aliser des recherches dans le domaine du management, vous concentrant notamment sur la structure des organisations, et vous avez publi\u00e9 de nombreux ouvrages sur ces sujets.\u00a0 \u00ab [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"on","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-905","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pensees-autour-du-management"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Interview Henry Mintzberg - EMIS BUSINESS SCHOOL PARIS<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"D\u00e9couvrez l\u2019interview exclusive d\u2019Henry Mintzberg, expert en management strat\u00e9gique, r\u00e9alis\u00e9e par EMIS Business School \u00e0 Paris. 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